The elders won’t do anything, if you suspect there is abuse going on, report to the police naming the suspect. Other than that, it is up to her parents, talk to them before it becomes a police report.
Anony Mous
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Age Appropriate Friends
by Riley inwe have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
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KING OF THE NORTH ATTACKs 0.001% OF JWS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/qn2dewyxlzu.
forget about ufos and orbs darting through the skies of new jersey, or the peculiar fog and bizarre weather gripping parts of the world lately.
none of that is on the watchtower’s radar.
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Anony Mous
How is Russia today (a far stretch from the Soviet Union and a puppet of China) the KoTN today? They have technologically speaking no advantage to even a small country like Ukraine.
They have a large amount of people to send into the meat grinder (2M active duty military and 2M+ reservists) but the bulk of their battle tanks are now about 50 years old - those were the same tanks Iraq used in Desert Storm in the 90s, a single US troop disabled in 23 minutes about 120 tanks and other armor - in another event a single tank on patrol took out about 12 before they were even in range. The US had ALL of their losses (~20-30 tanks/armor/artillery destroyed or disabled) through friendly fire and other mishaps rather than the enemy (0 total hits, 7000+ losses).
If you were to pit armies against each other today - well, there are plenty of people that have theorized about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zshbkU42nWY&ab_channel=TheInfographicsShow
There is no KoTN, Reagan killed them.
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Why you need Christmas to understand Easter/Memorial
by Anony Mous inso i went to a christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me.
i was primarily doing christmas since leaving the jw for the children.
lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance.
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Anony Mous
From my current understanding, Jesus in WTBTS is more akin to Jesus in Mormonism or Islam - a great prophet, good advice, but not divine.
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Why you need Christmas to understand Easter/Memorial
by Anony Mous inso i went to a christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me.
i was primarily doing christmas since leaving the jw for the children.
lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance.
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Anony Mous
So I went to a Christmas evening candlelight service tonight and it hit me. I was primarily doing Christmas since leaving the JW for the children.
Lots of people do it for family without really thinking of the relevance. During the service I was thinking of why JW does celebrate the Passover/Easter/Memorial whatever you want to call it, and listening to the story, the story of his death does not make sense without the Christmas story.
Jesus is born from human being, he is born in the most humble/poorest conditions at the time, he is immediately placed in severe danger from King Herod. As an infant he is purely dependent on humans despite the fact that he will eventually redeem the world, for pretty much the first half of his life he does not have the capacity to defend himself. That promise is not yet fulfilled at birth and his death cannot be fulfilled without his birth. You cannot think about someone dying without celebrating where they come from and their life and birth.
What the JW do however, is skip that entire first part, something that is part of every single Christian religion and reject it as false, thereby rejecting that Christianity does not come from high borne political or religious leaders or wise men, Christianity can be started and understood from the most basic principles, the parallels of Bethlehem and Nazareth being nothing towns born in the lowest place of that town and the story of his path to Jerusalem is the exact opposite of JW doctrine or various other religions that starts from a big city and self-declared wise men down.
You cannot think of a fulfilled life without celebrating the mother, and the father, and the environment that raised that person. Even if you believe Jesus was just a good person, Mary and Joseph is the one that made him that way, that is why Christmas is important to understanding the Passion.
And in this sense I am now also thinking why Catholics venerate the mother (Mary), it just makes sense deep down… although I am not sure yet of the significance.
These are my ramblings for the night, Merry Christmas!
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JWlite can be the purple pill
by Teddnzo ini really like the red pill analogy in the matrix.
the one guy wishes he didn’t take the red pill and would have preferred to take the blue pill.. many used to be pimi which is the blue pill and then they wake up to the fact that the gb are not who they claim to be which is taking the red pill.. they go through conflict and confusion as to what to believe now?
does god exist?
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Anony Mous
JWLite is like Cypher from the Matrix movies, you’ve been red pilled but you want to be reintegrated into the Matrix as a rich and famous character, if they could only see what you believe is correct. In the end you’re just the annoying side character that ends up dead and forgotten.
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Big Local Case, Sexual Abuse by former Elder, Police Raided the Kingdom Hall ! Kent, U.K !
by Phizzy inthe police have started an investigation where a woman has courageously come forward about her sexual abuse by a former elder, who had a record of doing such things with the local congregation, and i think it was all covered up.
they have charged him, he is claiming he is not mentally fit to appear in court, i hope that lie does not hold up !.
this case was unknown to the local elders, but hopefully will now give the strength for other women, who were all very young and very vulnerable at the time , to come forward as well.
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Anony Mous
So mentally unfit to stand trial, but he can run a congregation? Does the elder name happen to be "Joseph Biden".
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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.
by liam inso there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.
the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.
all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.
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Anony Mous
Social security is not an investment, it is welfare. Although you pay into it proportional to your income, you may not receive accordingly, there is a cap as to what you will get out of it. Illegal immigrants can get social security without work credit (there is a long list of exceptions for immigrants that do not need work credit, recently including the men that evaded their draft in Ukraine but also anyone that had to endure spousal abuse, Haitians, Cubans, etc etc), disabilities, being trafficked - so that includes pretty much anyone except for Canadians.
If you are earning $10,000 or more per year for 20 years, you receive 70 to 80 percent of the Social Security benefits paid for a full work life. Note that you do not have to “work”, being unemployed, Bethelites and special pioneers are often on some kind of “disability”, earning a stipend together with odd jobs, unemployment and state assistance, all counts because from your unemployment/income there is a withholding which at the end of the year (at tax time) is technically negative, it is considered “paying into” and making you eligible for payout.
Yes, those of us paying $1500/month in social security taxes, we are expected to receive $600/month out of it and the others are subsidized by us to the tune of $500-550/month. The thing you don’t have and what people may be confused about is 401k or pensions, you earn that on your own, it has a yield of approx. 180% if you work from a reasonable age (so if you pay into it now for 40 years, you can live very well for the other 40-60 years). In comparison, Social Security will have a net negative investment rate for the average person (you will never get out what you pay in)
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Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold
by AdamCzarnobay ini was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.
it's now a mosque.
this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..
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Anony Mous
The rules have long changed. I know back in the 80s and 90s even going to a Catholic hospital was frowned upon and dutifully avoided where possible. Now you can be active duty police, non-combat military, work at a religious school or hospital, even perform work for a church as long as it does not violate your conscience.
Although selling KH to make profit for the WTBTS real estate scam has always been allowed, even when it happened in the 90s, some were offended they didn’t hold out for another buyer but it was explained that they do these things through third parties and have no control (which is a blatant lie).
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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead
by Sea Breeze inlike the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.
the police chief points out that: .
“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.
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Anony Mous
@jhine: you can’t compare the total school shootings in the UK with ALL of the US. The UK is relatively tiny, many states can fit multiple UK’s. That being said, according to the Ben Kinsella trust, there were 99 children murdered in 1 year by knife in England, most of those in or on the way to school with 738 reported criminal possession incidents. Multiply that by 40 for a size comparison. 4000 children did not die in US schools last year, when counting gun homicides, you get to ~1500 children per year, most of those were not in schools but gang-related. A MORI Survey for the Youth Justice Board found that 29% of Secondary School-children, along with 57% of those excluded admitted to routinely carrying knives. - imagine if 29% of US school children carried guns because they needed it for protection.
@joey: you are the one that said that more guns = more gun crime, so you brought up the issue of proportionality, when pointed out the data, now you agree with me that gun ownership is not correlated? I already pointed out the data on guns and crime rates for other countries is incomplete, which you can see in the total discrepancy between reported and surveyed crime rates, but the UK has some nice knife crime statistics. It also doesn’t line up if you look for reports on teens being arrested with guns in Europe, there are quite a few pretty much every week that make some local headline, yet they are not reflected in any statistic?
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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead
by Sea Breeze inlike the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.
the police chief points out that: .
“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.
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Anony Mous
Again, there are no official stats on gun violence in the EU, so whatever stats you pull out of your behind do not show the whole picture. Similar to how recently the FBI declared a decrease in crime simply by not including certain cities.
According to the EU’s own data on crime victimization rate (https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/criminal-justice/protecting-victims-rights/victims-rights-eu_en) survey show 15% of Europeans are victimized annually, in the US his rate is 2.3% https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2023#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20there%20were%2022.5,6.9%20per%201%2C000%20in%202023.
Again, the official stats either don’t exist or cannot be compared. European countries do not consider crime reportable if the offender is not found or no guilt is found, the US considers a victims report to be sufficient. In Europe there is no central reporting agencies that all agencies report up to, there is in the US. In Europe, police will often not respond to emergency calls (Calling 112, 28% of calls do not get responded to at all, if calling 999 in the UK average waiting time for priority police calls in UK is 5h30m) in the US, criminals are in many cases effectively pursued (99.8% of calls get responded to within an average 15m20s). So the only proxy you have is to survey victimization rates.